Comments on: Peter Enns Suspended from WTS

By: jimgetz

jimgetz — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 16:30:43 +0000

Neil,

Thanks for stopping by. I have known many a Pentecostal at WTS over the years (I believe Alan came to WTS from Springfield). My personal parting of the ways with WTS was partially due to their cessation positions (as well as a number of others!). I eventually fled to Fuller largely because I sought fellowship with the wider Body of Christ. I’ve been there and deeply sympathize. God’s grace in whatever vocation you are called!

By: neil

neil — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:46:44 +0000

I find the comments on this page absolutely delightful, if a bit over done, but most others are more drammatic than myslef. I am currently attending Westminster, not as a Moravian or a Mennonite, but perhaps worse, as a Pentecostal (not full blown, it takes a lot to explain). I have seen some interesting things in my four years here, but this just takes the cake. It has truly made me fear taking any job with a Christian Institution, especially if this is how we treat loyalty, and act in brotherly love. Many will say it is “tough love” and that we young ones make love so sappy. Well, Peter and Paul seemed to get along after their scrap, and they decided to do something different. I just can’t understand how I am supposed to look up to men who are all reported to be Christians, and yet cannot fellowship and work together for the Kingdom. It is very depressing to me. I have shared this thought before, and have been told that this is the history of the church. A seemingly meaningless answer, to say that the history of the church is rife with sin, so we should expect and accept sin and not attempt to purge it from our midst. All in all, a depressing end to four years of fire and brimstone. May God grant me mercy in whatever I do next!

By: Awilum.com » Back in Cincinnati

Awilum.com » Back in Cincinnati — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:33:12 +0000

[...] is going to sell a lot more books. Baker, it’s time to get that press humming because the WTS trustees have just given you a windfall–controversy seems to be the number one way to sell…. Exhibit A: I haven’t read I&I and I was hoping that I could skate by and not read it [...]

By: hughvic

hughvic — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:44:06 +0000

A Mennonite, Jim! Wonderful! But damned if I can figure what you were doing there either. I trust you fared better at Fuller. I spent two weeks there, years ago, studying Kingdom theology, and came to respect the rigor of the place. I’m trained, as an historical anthropologist, to shed institutional assumptions, and other cultural artifacts & artifices, as it were exchanging a crown for a cross. It sounds as though WTS is stuck inside its crown, which rightly belongs alongside Her Majesty Queen Victoria’s, at the feet of the King of Kings. Anyway, I appreciated the way in which Fuller was accustomed to meeting The New eyeball-to-eyeball, and giving it a thorough going-over to see where it lay it juxtaposition to Fuller’s framework. I pray that Dr. Enns will find such a place. Or better yet, that such a place will find him.

Incidentally, I’d be a Moravian if I could be. None of them about, where I am. To bad; fits me like an old shoe. And here I am a petty factotum of PCUSA!

It occurs to me that the 12th Century Scholastics, two generations of Christian men who spent their lives pondering academic purpose and curricular taxonomy, finally reached the conclusion that the University was to admit all thought from all sources save one: Paganism. It wasn’t the idolatry that they wished to exclude, or the antithetical cosmology. The exclusion was owing to their belief that Paganism was a specific toxin that would open the body of scholars to a rash of relativism, thereby destroying the University. Even the greatest latitudinarians of all time had their limits, but exegetical historicism certainly was not outside their bounds.

When all this is over, the un-exegesis taught by WTS will melt away in the legacies, and possibly even in the minds, of its graduates. The WTS approach simply will become, in the intellectual agora, an Edsel on eBay. But the exegesis of Enns won’t have that fate.

If only they’d have the decency to do what the Board of Ambassador did. “It’s over. We were wrong. Let’s go.”

By: jimgetz

jimgetz — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:18:53 +0000

Alan: nice to see you working through your anger in creative ways. I found the letter from Satan quite humorous and would love to talk faith with you over a beer at the next SBL.

hughvic: the confessional nature of WTS has always made the place a bit odd. I did a year there back in ’97 and wound up leaving for Fuller because the place convinced me that I wasn’t reformed (what I, as a Mennonite) was doing there is still beyond me.

cdero: thanks for stopping by!

By: cdero

cdero — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:47:06 +0000

despicable of them to suspend him over facts. My thoughts on the matter

http://cdero.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/bible-monopoly/

By: hughvic

hughvic — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:19:44 +0000

So I see. It’s going to be a hot one.

By: Alan Lenzi

Alan Lenzi — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:03:56 +0000

I've expressed my anger a little bit more here.

By: Peter Enns Round-Up « Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth

Peter Enns Round-Up « Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:49:06 +0000

[...] Getz (what Jim wants) also pointed his readers to Kirk’s posts to keep them up-to-date with what has been happening. I informed my readers [...]

By: hughvic

hughvic — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:48:39 +0000

No, not really, A.L. Sounds descriptive to me. Wonder what WTS would have done with the masters of Edinburgh, had they not been tenured at the University. The poetic Jas. S. Stewart, for example. OUT!